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The things about lies and gossips

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 3:04 PM
Ya know, I always thought that only "popular" and famous people have to deal with lies being spread about them, mostly because people are jealous of them.

Wouldn't really thought I would need to experience it as well, especially not being popular, just an average artist with passion for art and her characters.

You know, the thing about lies and gossips is that it's a cheap weapon. People try to come up with stuffs that doesn't exist/not true only to justify themselves, only to bring you down.

Like shit bro, throw shit at me I did, but don't go and make up lies, go around and lie about me, because at the end of the day, I might look shitty in some people's eyes because of that lie, but you, my friend, you ARE definitely someone from the lowest.

Even after all this shit, if you would just come to me, tell me the truth and apologize, I would gladly forgive you, and just move on. I don't hold grudges, only if you've done so much shit that you played out my trust multiple times and tried to bring me down multiple times.

But then spreading lies and accusations.. I don't like people who play dirty, and try to act like the victim, especially since they are usually not as innocent as they seem to be.

Or you know, when people try to justify the fact that your friends are standing up for you with "whiteknighting". I wonder if these people even know the definition of it. I doubt it. 

I'm not even gonna mention what is this about, those who are at fault should know it better than me.

I'm only asking people not to judge someone from the words of a "hater" or someone who had a conflict with the person in question. Because it's always easier to lie, to judge and to hate, than to tell the truth, to seek the truth, to love. 

At the end of the day, we're all human who mistakes and I'm not an exception either. However I won't take responsiblity for something I never did/promise. 

If you believe whatever someone says who hates the person, mybe you should question if what they are saying is true or not. 

That's how I found out that someone has been constantly lying to me about someone - and now we're close friends. That's how much it means to seek the truth and not let people to fool you.

C6uZI3gU0AAWStR by GazeRei

(Maybe a bit raw or harsh, but I hope you get the point)

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amber-greggy Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow sorry something like that happened to you.

I hope karma comes back at that person who did that to you. 

Hope you feel better, cause that person is not worth the time of being upset any more. :heart:
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Kuraiko-chan349 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist
I am sorry you had to make this experience :(
I hope people aren't believing whatever it is that the person is saying about you.
:hug: *hugs you*
I hope the best for you :hug:
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Nebulosalumine Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
Honestly bless this post 
Also even it's that sad I think the mass effect will always prevail on the actual truth just because people aren't used to think by themselves nowadays and it's just even worse on internet as people are sure they can't be punished for behavior which could be certainly punished irl like harassement, defamation... And unfortunately the "anonymous" part of internet just amplify this feel
Then I'm kinda in hiatus so I didn't see what happening but I hope it will end quickly and without too much drama <3
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jeffthewhale Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Well said, my dude. 
There's a strong difference between calling someone out on something they screwed up and actively harrassing and defaming someone for personal gain. It's pretty crazy how many people can't tell the difference between the two.  
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natycchi Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student General Artist
I couldn't agree more, Reisy. 
I really don't know why people lie, what the fuck they want? 15 minutes of fame? Idk, I don't understand. 
I've been there, people telling a lie about me just bc they feel they could say this bc they're 'famous' than me, but in the end I changed, and where is they excuse now? It does not exists anymore. 
I dunno what's happening to ya, what is the lie and such, but I hope it's over soon and you to stay strong, and ya know, if you need someone to talk to, to vent, I'm here! <3 
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FeralFighter Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can tell the level of pettiness people are willing to stoop if they have to rely on lies to talk down on people or to have people support them blindly without even looking into the situation. Like if you are going to get nosey, at least look into the situation rather than blindly following you're friend who might be in the wrong.
Hopefully this crap is over and done with soon enough, you've been through enough and don't deserve this :huggle:
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I always thought that it's just so silly. Like blame me for shit I really did, not just throw random accusations because of anger, or make up lies to try to paint me bad in the eyes of others.
I really do hope people will be mature enough to seek out the truth, whatever it is, whether I'm wrong or not as well. 
Thank you so much! I just gotta focus on more stuffs, I have so much things in the plan so! c: :hug:
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RimoOfArtSchool Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student General Artist
I think i can understand, i've been in a similar situation before -_- haters are seriously lower forms of intelligence.. -_-
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So sorry to hear that! ;;;
I really don't understand the point of lies - when stuffs happens, shouldn't people handle it mature, even if they agree to disagree? Instead of this mess. 
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RimoOfArtSchool Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student General Artist
I guess they're still too immature... It's strange how, in real life (except for that one time) i only meet polite people with whom i can talk without problems, while online, anyone feels entitled to be an asshole... -_-
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's because online they don't have to take resposibility for their actions, unless they don't wanna busted as a bad person or something like that.
Online you can't get into fights, and irl people are always just acting all nice and stuffs, don't dare to say it to your face c":
Easier to throw shades at others from a distance I guess? 
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RimoOfArtSchool Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student General Artist
right..-_- (even tho it's so easy to express an opinion without insulting...-_-)
well..i guess i was lucky to meet the right people in real life ^////^
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Hellyon-Works Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Just like you said, people should find the truth by themselves. It's so easy to make your own opinion based on other people's, but what matters is actually being in the right.
I mean, those kind of people you're talking about seem to be the laziest and the lowest people in the world... I despise those so much...
I hope everything is gonna be better for you soon, Rei, you certainly don't deserve all of this craziness !
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You know, even when people see this journal, and stop for a minute and think, if it's true or not - that would be nice. Not because I lied about it, but because at least I achieved somethin with it: made people to think about it before easily and quickly judge others.
I dunno how they really are or not, but I do think that lying and gossiping is just really low, no matter what life they lead. 
Thank you so much! Guah, I just wish it wouldn't be handled like this. *shrugs* 
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Hellyon-Works Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student Digital Artist
It would just be nice if people took the time to actually care a little more about what's really going on. Like, do they know collecting information is the first step to making their own opinion ?
I feel bad for those who don't even try to understand the situation but are still getting involved...
But anyway, if someone really wants the truth, they'd know how to look for it.
I hope I'm not rambling to much, those people's stupidity just blows my mind Markiplier mind blown (F2U) 
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tshuki Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Student General Artist
Rumors usually start as a misunderstanding or hurt vented to the wrong person. That said 'wrong' person spreads them ahead.  

Some people are incredibly bad at judging others or just like to vent to the first stranger in the hood. One person magically came to the conclusion that I'm racist, for example, and spread it around (it seems it did not matter what color my best friends are, lmao, and that I historically come from slave lineage myself <:'D). Some other accused me of writing child porn without even reading the RP log in question. //shruug// Pretty serious accusations, right? That's the thing - they are too serious. If the people in question legit cared for me, they would think really hard and double check multiple times before even speaking up to me about it, instead of jumping to conclusions, lmao.    

I doubt they will ever apologize, because if they did that and didn't apologize already - it means they don't think they did anything wrong. Leaving them behind is the only option towards having more positive and warm relationships with people. If they are still somewhat around you - cut ties with them and that's about it. They don't care about you. Even if they say they do - they actually don't. Actions do speak louder than words.    
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nah, this is spread by the person I had a conflict with. And then who knows who will belive it or not *shrugs* 

Oh my gosh :"D Those are horrible what the fuck... This is why I really dislike people who does this - damaging others - but then again, those who believe it so easily, even though they know the person well... that's even sadder tbh. 
I'm sorry you had to go through that, it sounds absolutely terrible OTL

Yeah, that's what I kinda think too. I just wish they would stop it, especially since I don't really interact with them so it's not like we have to communicate. 
Yeah, they aren't a friend or stuffs, just someone who I barely know and maybe chatted with a bit through dA. It's not like they bother me, the lies and gossips are what bothers me ;;
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tshuki Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student General Artist
Oooh, so that's the case. Well, it doesn't seem like you can do anything about them doing those things, though. //patpats// I know it hurts and feels very unpleasant, though, so hang in there! ; v ; //  
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zodiacgal Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017
I don't know if this happened on the internet, but I do believe that the ability to be "anonymous" on the internet encourages, or at the very least, doesn't condemn such behavior. Nasty people can feel free to be nasty. :shrug: The internet is truly a double edged sword. 
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It happened on the internet and it's not exactly "anon" so yeah, awkward haha ;;
Yeah.. as much as I love the internet, it can be such a trouble.. 
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Spacebear-B Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
O.O o man! Is everything going to be alright? 
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not sure, it doesn't really depend on me at this point ;;
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Spacebear-B Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
I see Q-Q
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rieule Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unfortunately people like this will always exist. Can you imagine having so little dirt on someone that you have to lie though? Sad really.
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
AHAHA the truth has been spoken omgg---
I just wish they would at least realize what they did and apologize - even just later. It's not like I want them to beg to me or whatsoever, just to stop the lies and gossips. 
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kara-hikarai Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
First of all, this is happening to you right now? Like, is this high school? Hinata Death Glare 2 Icon  Are you ok? ;A;

Second of all, this is a really beautiful way to handle things. Mad respect for how calm and patient you are with this..I'm with Chi, I'd be in fire-breathing dragon mode haha Meme OTL Icon 

If you need anything though, let me know! I just hope people are smart enough to think, and realize that without hearing it from you or witnessing something themselves, what they're hearing is obviously just a rumor/lie.
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeup :"3
I guess lmfao xD 

Ahahaha thank you! As I mentioned, I dislike fights and conflicts, especially drama, so I just really hope this will make things calmer and no need to take it on another level. Especially dislike fans who likes to stir up drama. 

Thank you! I just hope that at least people who know me longer will at least question the thing and come to me to ask about it, otherwise I feel those people would believe anything they're told to. I know my friends know me, but people who just happens to barely know me might not. And the worst is when they're trying to turn people against you, because of some petty conflict that only me and the person has a business about. 
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kara-hikarai Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that ;c
And OTL

And of course! And I don't think anyone sane likes that stuff OTL
I hope so too though ;c And agreed, me neither e.e

And you're welcome c: And agreed, they definitely should!
And that's always a concern, with people who don't know you...
but I believe those people's opinions don't matter anyway. Not like
they're important to you/your friends, and your actual friends would
know if something was a lie or not~ But, I do hate that...hopefully
that doesn't happen though!!!
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mamimi-chu Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i believe everyone needs to "judge" for themselves, here you say that someone was spreading lies about you and stupid (from my perspective) people will follow those rumors blindly, but someone that is smart enough (i mean come on how smart shall you be to go and see for yourself if something is baseless or not?) will go and see for himself/herself and create his/her own picture about the said bad mouthed rumored individual (in this case you)
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not really sure if you're agreeing with me and just phrased it in a bit questionable style, or you're trying to turn it against me, because that I don't appreciate as well.
I didn't say stupid people will follow it blindly, but if people are so quick to judge somone based on a person's opinion/words who hate/dislike the person, it should be questioned whether it's true or not.
Even if the person really did something bad, you won't know until you seek the truth from both sides. 

I don't really mind if people think differently of me than who I really am, and I believe that if someone want to get to know me for real, they have plenty of options and chances for that. However blatantly telling lies, making passive-aggressive comments and spreading hate/gossips, that's some really low shit, and I barely doubt anyone would be happy to have such lies being spread about them. I wonder if people who does this ever think about how it would feel to be the one being lied about, being wronged or accused. 

I'm not sure if your phrasing where just misunderstood, so until you'll clarify yourself, don't wanna say more in case I misunderstood c: 
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mamimi-chu Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What i wrote makes more sense in greek, im sorry, its just a force of habbit not making sure if what im saying makes as much sense in english

I agree with what you say about the "third party" looking into something themselves in order to create their own opinion instead of following someone else's words blindly

As for the person that spreaded the lies and rumors

1. The person does that in order to get their self esteem higher by trying to lower the self esteem of the one they dislike/hate, and so they spread lies to make more people dislike the peron in question

2. Most likely, no they haven't been on the position of having someone spread lies about them and thats why they don't know and don't care how it feels i suppose
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Apologies for butting in, but if you don't mind me asking, this comment is a little confusing? It reads like you agree with GazeRei and prove her journal point by paraphrase and reaffirmation - but given your parenthetical accusation, this likely was not your intention. ^^; Are you meaning to use her own words against her?

Because I think regardless of who is in the "bad mouthed" position, her point still stands that people ought to think (or judge) for themselves, no? Or perhaps I'm reading your intention wrong? (Just looking for clarification, sorry! Again, the comment reads confusing to me, haha;; ). 
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mamimi-chu Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry if its too confusing, in greek it actually makes sense what im trying to say

yes i agree with what GazeRei is saying about people instead of blindly following someone else's words they should look into it for themselves and make their own picture of vision
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Ohh, yeh, that makes sense xD Thank you for clarifying!! I like that phrasing, their own "vision". Well put!
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mamimi-chu Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry for not phrasing it properly the first time ><"
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
It happens to the best of us xD English is an annoying language like that too, tbh it's why I'm really amazed by people who learn it as a second language. It's impressive to me ;v;/
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mamimi-chu Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahaha, true, i suppose the majority of people learning english as a second language makes this kind of mistakes? Since what is understandable in our mother language in english doesn't make much sense xD
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
From my experiences with bilingual friends, it happens to everyone xD I have a Hispanic friend who sometimes starts talking fast and she'll be speaking English but out of order, LOL. From the Latin classes I've taken, I've come to learn that English is a very wacky language, breaks a lot of its own rules too!
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Nagisa-Imouto Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Definitely bless this journal. This is absolutely what we needed in this world. *Hugs Reisy*
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you, Nagi!! *hugs back* ♥
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel like sometimes people forget there's a distinction between telling someone what happened while venting versus spreading hate about a person - and to spread lies, well, that's uh. Really low. Idk man, that just rubs me the wrong way. 

You make an excellent point on following blindly. Too many times people will believe whatever one person says without even questioning it, or simply judging before even contemplating the other person's side of things. I haven't gotten all the details yet myself of what's going on, but I think it's great that your response is to ask people to think rather than just raging with a "hey this person is lying believe me not them!!1!"; it's quite admirable and patient of you, imo. You've vented, but you've made an important point here too, ya know?

If someone was spreading lies about me I'd go batshit lmao no patience whatsoever for that kinda stuff like UNLEASH THE DRAGONS BITCHES ahaha;;;
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GazeRei Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeup, I agree :"D
I mean just the fact alone that there needs to be lies and gossips just because some personal conflict or whatsoever, that's pretty lame. Puliing random people into it and trying to paint others is just.. bad.

Thank you! ;;
And you know, that's why I hope they really do think about it and question it, heck even my own journal too. They don't need to believe me either, but if my point of "think and research before judge" gets through, that's already good enough for me. I can believe that there is hope for people, and not having issues with people just because they "heard" this or that about others.
That's why I don't name or be very specific, I think even without knowing the details, lies and gossips in general is a bad thing, and regardless of what happened to me, people shouldn't judge so easily, especially if the source is questionable and can't show any proofs either. 

LMFAO right :"D I just wish it wouldn't have come to this, such a disappointment.
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